Deal made to avoid government shutdown
Congress is locked in showdown that threatens to partially shut down the government. NBC's Luke Russert reports.
By The Associated Press
Updated at 11:13 p.m. ETWASHINGTON -- Congressional negotiators reached agreement Thursday on a compromise spending bill to avert a weekend federal shutdown. They also worked toward a deal renewing the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits for another year but prepared a shorter version as a fallback.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters he was still optimistic that bipartisan talks on yearlong extensions of the Social Security payroll tax cut and unemployment coverage would succeed. But as a "Plan B," he said, they were working on a two-month extension as well, which would also prevent cuts in Medicare reimbursements for doctors during that period.
"We're still working on the long-term" bill, Reid told reporters as he exited the Capitol after a day of talks over both the payroll tax and spending measures. As for the two-month version, he said, "We'll only do that if what we're working on doesn't work out."
Reid's remarks put a slight damper on a day on which for the first time, Democratic and Republican leaders expressed optimism at prospects for swift compromise on their payroll tax standoff and a spending battle that had threatened to shutter federal agencies beginning at midnight Friday. A deal on a $1 trillion spending bill was reached after Republicans agreed to drop language that would have blocked President Barack Obama's liberalized rules on people who visit and send money to relatives in Cuba. But a GOP provision will stay in the bill thwarting an Obama administration rule on energy efficiency standards that critics argued would make it hard for people to purchase inexpensive incandescent light bulbs.
The House is expected to approve the spending measure Friday, and the Senate could follow suit, possibly the same day.
Donald Stewart, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said talks aimed at agreeing to a yearlong extension of the payroll tax measure will continue.
"We're 12 hours into this debate, they just started talking," he said when asked about the two-month version of the bill. "I wouldn't hit the panic button."
A senior White House official said the administration supported the two-month plan.
Bargainers were considering the two-month extension of this year's payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits bill because so far, they haven't agreed how a yearlong extension would be paid for, said a Democratic aide who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the private talks.
The two-month bill would cost $40 billion, according to the aide. It would be paid for from a list of around $120 billion in savings that bargainers are considering, including sales of the broadcast spectrum and raising fees that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac charge to back mortgages, the aide said.
The two-month extension would let lawmakers revisit the measure after returning to Washington after the holiday season. That could be risky because that work would come well into the 2012 presidential and congressional election year.
Without congressional action, the payroll taxes would rise and extra benefits for the long-term unemployed would expire on Jan. 1. Doctors' Medicare payments would be automatically reduced that day by 27 percent, a reduction that could prompt some to stop seeing Medicare patients.
"Right now, Congress needs to make sure that 160 million working Americans don't see their taxes go up on Jan. 1," said Obama, referring to the tax cut extension at the core of the jobs program he outlined in a nationally televised speech three months ago.
House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, the most powerful Republican in an era of divided government, agreed. "We can extend payroll tax relief for American workers, help create new jobs and keep the government running. And frankly, we can do it in a bipartisan way," he said.
In the Capitol, the previous day's bristling rhetoric and partisan jabs all but vanished.
Still another year-end bill, setting new rules for the handling of terror suspects in U.S. custody, won final congressional approval and headed to Obama's desk for his signature.
Republicans agreed to consider changes to a $1 trillion spending bill compromise that they and at least one Democrat said had been wrapped up days ago.
On the payroll tax cut bill, Democrats abandoned their demand for a surtax on million-dollar incomes that they wanted to include in the measure.
At a news conference, Boehner minimized the concession, noting that Democrats lacked the votes to impose the surtax a year ago when they commanded 60 votes in the Senate. Even so, he said, "there was some movement yesterday from the White House and Democrat leaders" toward a compromise.
Boehner also left open the possibility of a compromise on another key sticking point — a House-passed provision that all but requires construction of the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada to Texas Gulf Coast refineries.
Construction "will put 20,000 people to work immediately And there are about 115,000 other jobs directly related to it," he said. Yet he skipped an opportunity to say construction of the project was non-negotiable as talks on the payroll tax cut bill proceeded.
Obama has threatened to veto the House-passed bill, in part citing the requirement for the pipeline. The project has been studied for more than three years, but the president recently announced he would put off a decision until after the 2012 elections.
At Obama's insistence, Congress cut the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax to 4.2 percent this year in an effort to stimulate the economy with more consumer spending. The president has proposed deepening the cut to 3.1 percent next year, but Republicans have only shown a willingness to renew it at this year's level.
Obama also wants to leave in place a system that provides aid for up to 99 weeks for the long-term unemployed. The House-passed measure reduces the total by 20 weeks, a step that the administration says would cut off 3.3 million individuals and that Democrats are hoping to soften if not reverse.
Reid indicated that a number of expiring tax breaks were on the table, as well, a list that included a provision that benefits commuters who use mass transit.
The House-passed payroll tax cut measure relied on a pay freeze and increased pension contributions for federal workers, as well as higher Medicare premiums for seniors with incomes over $80,000, beginning in 2017. The bill would also raise a fee that is charged to banks whose mortgages are guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and cancel more than $40 billion from the year-old health care bill, Obama's signature domestic achievement.
The year-end, $1 trillion spending measure would lock in cuts that Republicans extracted from Democrats in negotiations conducted months ago against the deadline of a previous government shutdown threat. It funds 10 Cabinet departments, including the Pentagon and dozens of smaller agencies, awarding a slight increase to the military and veterans' programs while trimming most other domestic programs.
The separate defense bill covered military personnel, weapons systems, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and more at a cost of $662 billion, $27 billion below Obama's request. The Senate approved it by a resounding 86-13.
The main controversy revolved around a provision to require military custody for foreign terrorist suspects linked to al-Qaida or its affiliates and involved in plotting or attacking the United States. Under a change made to gain Obama's backing, the legislation would permit the FBI to arrest and interrogate foreign terror suspects, as is now the case.
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Here we go again! Budget part II. Hope all you Washington @!$%#s (both sides) don't have any plans between now and January 2nd, as my crystal ball predicts that you will be there for the next foreseeable future. Can't go on your vacation???? Sniff,sniff ! I feel really sorry for you!
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Here we go again! Budget part II.
Hope all you Washington @!$%#s (both sides) don't have any plans between now and January 2nd, as my crystal ball predicts that you will be there for the next foreseeable future.
Can't go on your vacation???? Sniff,sniff ! I feel really sorry for you!
Hope all you Washington @!$%#s (both sides) don't have any plans between now and January 2nd, as my crystal ball predicts that you will be there for the next foreseeable future.
Can't go on your vacation???? Sniff,sniff ! I feel really sorry for you!
- 28 votes
These MORONS need to be kicked down that road along with that can come this election, the only thing that will get results is hand all these guys their PINK SLIPS that way the new bunch will know NO more BS will be tolerated by the American people .. Then they can experience how the real Americans are living .........
- 42 votes
Again, no mention of any help for the "millions" of homeless citizens. Sick thought: MILLIONS...
And again no mention of any help for those unable to find work but not able to collect unemployment.
But of course the once great U.S.A. will find a way to continue foreign aid to help other countries.
Thank God 2012 is just around the corner; the Republicans have sealed their own fate.
And again no mention of any help for those unable to find work but not able to collect unemployment.
But of course the once great U.S.A. will find a way to continue foreign aid to help other countries.
Thank God 2012 is just around the corner; the Republicans have sealed their own fate.
- 44 votes
The article does not say what the Republicans demanded for these needed actions.
- 5 votes
What we really need is a budget for 2012. The congress needs to support the promise of the President and make sure that the 2012 federal deficit does not exceed 229.27 billion dollars. To do that they must cut spending by more then 1 trillion dollars in just one year starting now. With our current debt over 15 trillion dollars, I estimate that if will cost the tax payers more than 2.06 trillion dollars to repay money borrowed in 170 years. The federal government needs to start running a surplus which will be applied to lowering the national debt. We need more than deficit reduction. We need debt reduction
- 21 votes
Hmmmm, lemme see, where's that can?
Oh, there it is!
KICK!
See ya all in 2 months.
Oh, there it is!
KICK!
See ya all in 2 months.
- 14 votes
The Teapublican rat bastards have done it again!They have taken things down to the wire, nearly shutting down government to get what they want. Have these GOP/TP douche-bags learned nothing from the S&P downgrade of our credit rating? Have these GOP/TP hypocrites not learned a damn thing about "uncertainty" in our economy?
What these Teapublican losers haven't learned is that this short-term emergency measure is going to keep their treasonous behavior in the news. You right-wing jagoffs, don't you realize this will allow for another two months of exposing you for being the anti-democracy and middle class arseholes that your are?
Have at it Dems -- crank it up. Let's talk non-stop about how the Teapublicans are protecting the 300,000 rich folk from a measly 3% surtax AFTER the first million of income, instead of helping the struggling middle class in this time of crisis. YES let's keep this in the news every single day for the next two months! And NO, I don't wish congress a Merry Christmas. I hope Teapublicans choke on their Christmas dinner while poor children go hungry in this once great nation of ours.
What these Teapublican losers haven't learned is that this short-term emergency measure is going to keep their treasonous behavior in the news. You right-wing jagoffs, don't you realize this will allow for another two months of exposing you for being the anti-democracy and middle class arseholes that your are?
Have at it Dems -- crank it up. Let's talk non-stop about how the Teapublicans are protecting the 300,000 rich folk from a measly 3% surtax AFTER the first million of income, instead of helping the struggling middle class in this time of crisis. YES let's keep this in the news every single day for the next two months! And NO, I don't wish congress a Merry Christmas. I hope Teapublicans choke on their Christmas dinner while poor children go hungry in this once great nation of ours.
- 38 votes
@ Will
What this country needs is investment for the future. THAT is priority one. Only then can we address your republican talking point of debt reduction. Simple as that. Proper investment will take care of the debt. Obama has persued this but the unhonorable republicans obstruct it. Shameful.
What this country needs is investment for the future. THAT is priority one. Only then can we address your republican talking point of debt reduction. Simple as that. Proper investment will take care of the debt. Obama has persued this but the unhonorable republicans obstruct it. Shameful.
- 23 votes
Doem,, this legislation will allow them to go home for the holidays. They should forfeit their pay until a permanent bill is passed.
- 32 votes
I think after the elections the CURRENT House & Senate will be able to go on a PERMANENT vacation. With all the garbage they have been heaping on "We The People", I think it's time for a huge replacement.
- 16 votes
Come on folks. We need to chip away at this mess.
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TruePatriot You blame the Teapublicans because they didn't cave in to the Democrats!! The Teapublicans should fold and give the Democrats everything they ask??!! Why is there no blame for the Democrats? They held the country hostage because they didn't give the Republicans everything they wanted. If it works one way, it works the other. How transparent and onesided can a person be?
- 14 votes
Don't get me wrong, I realize the Dems have done this to avoid a government shut-down, yet again! But I am NOT happy with the 10 Dems in the House that helped Teapublicans pass a gimmick that wasted valuable time. And though I realize Dems see the delay as a way to keep the GOP/TP protection of the 1% in the news, and finding funds for the extensions will take more time, don't tell me they didn't do this because they want to go home for the holidays too. The bravado rings hollow right now, and if this is not resolved permanently and very soon, Democrats will not look like they are taking the high road. This is a dangerous path you are taking Democrats...
TES -2640989 -- HI-larious! What have the Teapublicans given up, WHAT?! You can't name a damn thing. Run along troll and try the Kool-Aid that smells like almonds.
Other than that, YAY for the end to the Iraq War!
TES -2640989 -- HI-larious! What have the Teapublicans given up, WHAT?! You can't name a damn thing. Run along troll and try the Kool-Aid that smells like almonds.
Other than that, YAY for the end to the Iraq War!
- 13 votes
Rick and Just, you seem to forget about the Constitution in your remarks.....only ONE-THIRD of the Senate can be replaced in 2012. You will have to wait until 2014 to replace another 1/3 and 2016 to replace the last 1/3. But of course, even more damage and grid-lock can occur in the next five years (or more if the electorate is stupid enough to elect the WRONG and possibly worse candidates to the offices.) Make sure you know who those opponents are and what they REALLY stand for before you cast a vote to replace the incumbents. You may find yourself really upset by who you have replaced them with.
- 3 votes
If I worked as bad as these fools I'd been shut down a long time ago.
- 9 votes
They just need to just multiply this bill and move on, or let the across the board cuts happen. Enough of this crap already.
#156.16 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:26 PM ESTYep, Can't replace a whole bunch of MORONS with a BUNCH of New MORONS, I guess we would probably be a little worst off than we already are ......
- 2 votes
Probably the only reason the congress finally did something is because if they hadn't they may not have received their paychecks. Hell, the should've cut out the entire emergency foreign aid package of 11 whatever billion. And while they were at it, they should've cut all aid to all foreign countries and that includes Israel, Egypt, etc.
- 4 votes
Why is it that we allow them to take time off at their leisure and give them selves pay increases again? I say we strip Congress of the right to police itself in those regards. If the American people do not think they are doing their job right, no vacation for them till they behave.
Can't seem to agree on a necessary bill? Cut their pay. I think if the populace held the strings to their benefits bag they would be more inclined to do their damn jobs instead of bickering over who wears the tightest spandex pants.
Can't seem to agree on a necessary bill? Cut their pay. I think if the populace held the strings to their benefits bag they would be more inclined to do their damn jobs instead of bickering over who wears the tightest spandex pants.
- 9 votes
This is the absolute worst written article I have ever seen... Paragraphs are repeated and the article is unfinished.
- 3 votes
Republican blackmail, Democratic back peddling. Middle class Americans held hostage and we will see this three ring circus, played again. Now we all know who are in the first and second rings but Congress needs us to tell them the third strategy. LET THE TAX CUT EXPIRE FOR EVERYONE!
When the Democrats take over the house in 2012, they can initiate a tax cut for the middle class. I am one of the 99% but I would rather lose the Bush tax cuts now and have the rich 1% pay their taxes. While their at it, the Democrats can close all those corporate loop holes!
It is the only way to stop the Republicans for ruining our economy and make the rich "Pony up!"
When the Democrats take over the house in 2012, they can initiate a tax cut for the middle class. I am one of the 99% but I would rather lose the Bush tax cuts now and have the rich 1% pay their taxes. While their at it, the Democrats can close all those corporate loop holes!
It is the only way to stop the Republicans for ruining our economy and make the rich "Pony up!"
- 9 votes
~~~~~~~~~~~~"The T-Retards are GOP rejects that are owned by the Koch Cult 1%"~~~~~~~~~~
- 12 votes
They argue over frickin light bulbs and allow Pakistan $850 million? What a bunch of losers this Congress turned out to be. Why are we giving the Pakis anything but a good by card? They cut their office staff 6% after giving themselves how much of a raise? Not one incumbent in 2012!!! Not one Nancy Pelosi or Boehner to continue making millions on insider trading while the middle class turns into the working poor--those that even have jobs. They all make me want to puke. Bickering over light bulbs for heaven's sake. What has this great nation come to? The rich taking care of the rich and getting richer.
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TruePatriot-445959......
Your comments in post # 1.6 are TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS.
Time for you to get back on your high horse and ride back to Chicago with Mr. Obama.
Maybe you should change your NAMES (this one and Patriotic American U.S.A.) to TureA*****.
Your comments in post # 1.6 are TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS.
Time for you to get back on your high horse and ride back to Chicago with Mr. Obama.
Maybe you should change your NAMES (this one and Patriotic American U.S.A.) to TureA*****.
- 2 votes
I wish they'd all go home for Christmas and not ever get back to DC, repub's and dem's alike. Hire some real people to handle the real problems WE face as Americans.
- 4 votes
Here is what laughable about the David, Charles and Karl. With all their money, one would think, they would have been able to afford a better choice of candidates. The Republicans have paid big bucks for a handful of elitist, lying crooks. That pretty much tells me the combine I.Q. of the Kochs and Rove.
- 4 votes
Really? republicans would have shut down the government over light bulb standards?
- 3 votes
They wouldn't dare let the government shut down. We might discover how much better off we would be without it. Then they'd all be out of their jobs!
- 6 votes
Those Mean Republicans!
They are blocking a "tax cut" that further defunds SS and Medicare!
They are blocking a "tax cut" that specifically targets funding for SS and Medicare!
They are blocking a tax cut that the CBO has shown 60% of the benefit will go to people making 100k per year or more!
Those Bastards!
Lol, get a grip you Obamanites, face it, Obama is a cheap charlatan who is perfectly will ing to play games with our SS and Medicare JUST TO GET VOTES!!!!!!
I swear you blind party Obama people are so funny, half the time you don't even know what it is you're blaming the Republicans FOR.
Obama is a DISASTER and so is his "payroll tax". Don't worry, we'll just replenish FICA with borrowed Chines money. Everything will be good, right? Right?
They are blocking a "tax cut" that further defunds SS and Medicare!
They are blocking a "tax cut" that specifically targets funding for SS and Medicare!
They are blocking a tax cut that the CBO has shown 60% of the benefit will go to people making 100k per year or more!
Those Bastards!
Lol, get a grip you Obamanites, face it, Obama is a cheap charlatan who is perfectly will ing to play games with our SS and Medicare JUST TO GET VOTES!!!!!!
I swear you blind party Obama people are so funny, half the time you don't even know what it is you're blaming the Republicans FOR.
Obama is a DISASTER and so is his "payroll tax". Don't worry, we'll just replenish FICA with borrowed Chines money. Everything will be good, right? Right?
- 3 votes
Why can't we just agree that both sides suck and we need to start over with a new set of people that actually want to represent what the people want rather than what some lobbyist pays them to do...These people come into politics with some money and after a few years suddenly they are millionaires?? billionaires?? Anyone can see something is wrong.
- 3 votes
I can't wait to hear "tru patriot"'s spin when Obama signs the bill repealing the Posse Comitatus and The Bill of Rights. That whole dew drop in crowd is a bunch of blind followers. Not one of them has ever voiced a single criticism of Obama. Not once. Of course, nothings Obamas fault anyways, right?
- 3 votes
More of what is not going to help the middle class in AMERICA. Environmental needs - check, African needs - check, War in MIDDLE EAST needs - check, Top 2% tax breaks still in place - check, Health Care that is killing what remains of middle class still in place without public option - check, WASHINGTON GRIDLOCK STILL IN PLACE AS THOSE IN POWER WOULD LIKE IT - check. But what is unfortunately not being noticed is the demise of a ONCE GREAT COUNTRY - THE GOOD OLE U.S. of A. Just like the Roman Empire - check, Just like the Egyptian Empire - check, Just like the FRENCH REVOLUTION - check. History shows that any country that tries to go it without a strong middle class is a country destined for failure. So far, I don't see anthing helping me maintain my middle class standing, that is even if I can still consider myself there! Lost home ownership due to no fault of my own -check, job pay cuts - check, spending power being killed - check, Health Care EATING MY FAMILY ALIVE - check, gas prices killing my budget - check, grocery bills killing my budget - check, daycare for kids becoming un payable - check, WATCHING A COUNTRY I PROUDLY SERVED FOR IN THE ARMY IMPLODE (ALONG WITH MY FAMILY'S HOPES FOR A BETTER FUTURE) - unfortunately CHECK, AND GETTING CLOSE TO CHECK MATE.
- 2 votes
Take That Back, I agree We can pay more now and get rid of this extortion for once and for all ....
#156.33 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:56 PM EST$662 billion. think about it. just think about it. we are all ready in debt to china. so i guess that we will be sending more work over there to help pay them back. i think once it get's so high. we will drop a few bomb's on them to pay them back,,,lol
- 1 vote
OK, all you Teabaggee Liberals who are too lazy to go out and earn a living and just want your boy-toy Barrack to “redistribute” the enormous wealth you think all the millionaires and billionaires have, here’s some statistics from ABC’s “Fact Check”. I’m sure you all saw this splattered all over the news to verify our Liar-in-Chief’s propaganda and hate-mongering class warfare on the major networks and of course your favorite PMSNBC. Right?
NO?
Hmmmm, I wonder why? Could it be that it’s all a lie? The Lamestream media wouldn’t cover up a lie by our illustrious Harvard educated Envier-in-Chief, would they?
Well, I’ll let you do the math to see exactly how much your wet-dream of 2-3% increase in their tax bracket will help you poor dysfunctionals.
(Hint: it’s much less than a month’s interest on our debt)
Knock yourselves out calculating the delusional mountain of wealth you have been indoctrinated into thinking the rich aren’t paying. I’m sure most of you won’t be able to do it because you need someone else to do everything else for you.
Hypocrites!
(By the way, a “teabaggee” is the one who accepts the bag from the teabaggers. You can find a more descriptive definition here, urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabaggee)
NO?
Hmmmm, I wonder why? Could it be that it’s all a lie? The Lamestream media wouldn’t cover up a lie by our illustrious Harvard educated Envier-in-Chief, would they?
Well, I’ll let you do the math to see exactly how much your wet-dream of 2-3% increase in their tax bracket will help you poor dysfunctionals.
(Hint: it’s much less than a month’s interest on our debt)
Sep 20, 2011So, there you go my little Teabaggee Liberals.
Treasury Secretary Geithner yesterday declined to answer a key question about the president’s proposed “Buffett Rule”: How many millionaires and billionaires pay lower tax rates than middle-income families?
The answer: not that many.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has crunched the numbers and found that Warren Buffett and his secretary are the exception to the rule. For the most part, the wealthy pay a significantly higher percentage of their income in taxes than middle-income workers.
The key numbers: this year those earning over $1 million will pay, on average, 29.1 percent on federal taxes. Those earning between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15 percent.
That’s not to say that there aren’t wealthy people who are even better than Buffett at avoiding taxes. In 2009, 1,470 people with incomes over $1 million a year paid absolutely no taxes. But that represents less than 1 percent of those earning over $1 million a year. Raising their taxes may be the fair thing to do, but it will not bring in much revenue.
There were 236,883 taxpayers who earned more than $1 million in 2009. That’s less than two-tenths (0.2%) of one percent of all filers.
The Top 400 tax filers – the very richest Americans – do pay a lower rate of just 18.11 percent of their total income. Why? Many of them are hedge fund managers and people like Buffet — their income is pegged how much their investment fund grows. For some reason, this income is counted as so-called “carried interest” (even though it is not interest at all; it’s more like a performance bonus) and is taxed at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate.
It’s a loophole for hedge managers, pure and simple. But while it may be an outrage that these uber-rich hedge fund managers pay such a low rate compared to the rest of us, there are just not many of them out there.
But the top 400 tax filers represent a tiny sliver – just .00028 percent of all filers. The vast majority of those earning over $1 million a year pay at a higher rate, which is why the average tax rate for this group, according to the Tax Foundation, is 29.1 percent of taxable income. And, yes, this number includes income taxes, payroll taxes and capital gains taxes.
The numbers change a bit if you look at total income before deductions and tax credits (Adjusted Gross Income), according to another non-partisan group, The Tax Foundation. Here’s how the numbers breakdown using IRS data from 2009 on Adjusted Gross Income for the income groups at issue in this discussion:
- $10 million a year paid 22 percent.
- $1 million to $10 million paid 25 percent.
- $50,000 to $75,000 paid 7 percent.
The rate for the middle-income filers drop because many individual deductions and tax credits are phased out for higher income taxpayers.
(emphasis mine)
Knock yourselves out calculating the delusional mountain of wealth you have been indoctrinated into thinking the rich aren’t paying. I’m sure most of you won’t be able to do it because you need someone else to do everything else for you.
Hypocrites!
(By the way, a “teabaggee” is the one who accepts the bag from the teabaggers. You can find a more descriptive definition here, urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabaggee)
- 5 votes
Is there NOTHING the Democrats won't cave on??? Is there NOTHING Obama says he will veto that he actually VETOES. Schmucks!! Grow a pair!!!
- 2 votes
Both Parties messed it up all the years both parties were... Ron Paul what say you ?
- 1 vote
Colorblind-2498596
Banning cell phone use while driving.
Tanning bed laws.
Yep, the priorities are all fu**ed up.
Maybe Barrack can create another "Committee" to evaluate these dramatic issues.
They argue over frickin light bulbs and allow Pakistan $850 million?Let's not forget the other Draconian changes our government is concerned with more than our economic survival.
Banning cell phone use while driving.
Tanning bed laws.
Yep, the priorities are all fu**ed up.
Maybe Barrack can create another "Committee" to evaluate these dramatic issues.
“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ~ Ronald Reagan
- 2 votes
Hey FREEDOMRINGSLOUD, you obviously are one of the problems with this country. Just reading your comment "you poor dysfunctionals". Hmmm....well you have the money now for sure, but your view is what is some day going to land your future family members and maybe even yourself in the same boat as those from the collapse of the Roman Empire and the French Revolution and all those hoping the USA doesn't go down this way (including myself) with them. Your, I AM BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE, attitude is the greatest problem we face today. An upper class who feels priveleged and that they DESERVE TO BE PRIVELEGED without any effort to maintain a strong, loyal, middle class support for the country or for FELLOW COUNTRY MEMBERS. Totally complacent with what you view as YOUR MONEY. As if you earned it in a vacuum or something. Perhaps it was your GOD GIVEN WEALTH OR SOMETHING? DIVINE WEALTH? Who knows, either way, so we get it, you have money, AND you are exactly what this country needs to rid itself of: One who didn't PERSONALLY EARN ANYTHING, BUT WHO UNLIKE THOSE WHO EARNED YOU THAT MONEY, THROWS HIS ELITIST VIEWS AROUND LIKE A BULLY. Well, got news for you, yes you have a small you know what, so stop compensating with your bravisimo AND START ACTING AND/OR PROPOSING SOMETHING USEFUL TO TRULY SUPPORT THE STRONG MIDDLE CLASS THAT WILL INSURE YOUR FAMILY HAS THE MONEY FOR YEARS TO COME. Or then again, you probably already "KNOW" your family will have the money for those years to come (or as you surmise, at least as long as your alive, and screw the future).
- 1 vote
@FreedomRingsLoud,
The rich have been living off the backs of the middle class for DECADES. If not for us, they wouldn't even have their billions. If the middle class stops purchasing their products, or using their services, the hammer falls on their entire company. Let's see how long they will survive once all their products (mostly made in China) are boycotted, because that's exactly what's going to happen if this trade war with China ever comes to fruition. Right now, it's merely a p***ing contest, but I can see it getting worse.
The rich have been living off the backs of the middle class for DECADES. If not for us, they wouldn't even have their billions. If the middle class stops purchasing their products, or using their services, the hammer falls on their entire company. Let's see how long they will survive once all their products (mostly made in China) are boycotted, because that's exactly what's going to happen if this trade war with China ever comes to fruition. Right now, it's merely a p***ing contest, but I can see it getting worse.
- 1 vote
@FreedomRingsLoud, because there is one point in the current tax code that has people making over 1 mil actually paying a higher tax rate versus those making 50-75k...OOOOO. WTF about 76k to 999k? Where is the figures for that? Is that with the Bush era cuts still in place as well or are you just reciting somebody's work because you fail at math.
Let us try this let us look at Viacom where the CEO got himself a 50 mil raise not to long ago. The company only has 11,000 workers and they make an average of 50k a year. How much of a raise should each employee have gotten? 50 mil divided by 11k equals $4545.45 a year raise. WTF did they get as a raise, less then $500 on average, close to 1% instead of the 10% it should have been. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. How do you think the CEO even got to make as much as he did before that raise, F***ING his employees.
Had the 11,000 employees made more money they would have paid it in taxes. Instead now the CEO has to pay their taxes on the money he took from them. What is worse is that the a$$hole then complains about how the employees are a bunch of lazy worthless people, that he has to "pay" money to, and how they want a bunch of entailment programs. Had you given your employees a fair raise we would not be having this discussion. Instead the CEO joins the Republican party or the Tea baggers and spends that money on lobbyist, PACs, ads, etc. just to hold onto that money causing STAGNATION. the exact thing Capitalism was supposed to prevent.
According to math if I increase the tax on the rich then the government has more money to pay back its debt. WTF are the rich crying about...money, what do they lots of...money, STFU and sell your cool air somewhere else.
Let me explain it for you since you are slow. Taxing the rich LIMITS GREED, it encourages them to do the right thing and not horde the money. It encourages them to pay their employees their fair share since they cannot keep it. It encourages them to reinvest into the company since they cannot keep it.
1 in 2 Americans are poor while taxes are the lowest in history for the rich and corporations. Our debt is the highest it has ever been and we have idiots like you spreading B.S. about one point in our current messed up tax code. I feel like I am living in Israel or Germany before WWII with how things are going.
Let us try this let us look at Viacom where the CEO got himself a 50 mil raise not to long ago. The company only has 11,000 workers and they make an average of 50k a year. How much of a raise should each employee have gotten? 50 mil divided by 11k equals $4545.45 a year raise. WTF did they get as a raise, less then $500 on average, close to 1% instead of the 10% it should have been. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. How do you think the CEO even got to make as much as he did before that raise, F***ING his employees.
Had the 11,000 employees made more money they would have paid it in taxes. Instead now the CEO has to pay their taxes on the money he took from them. What is worse is that the a$$hole then complains about how the employees are a bunch of lazy worthless people, that he has to "pay" money to, and how they want a bunch of entailment programs. Had you given your employees a fair raise we would not be having this discussion. Instead the CEO joins the Republican party or the Tea baggers and spends that money on lobbyist, PACs, ads, etc. just to hold onto that money causing STAGNATION. the exact thing Capitalism was supposed to prevent.
According to math if I increase the tax on the rich then the government has more money to pay back its debt. WTF are the rich crying about...money, what do they lots of...money, STFU and sell your cool air somewhere else.
Let me explain it for you since you are slow. Taxing the rich LIMITS GREED, it encourages them to do the right thing and not horde the money. It encourages them to pay their employees their fair share since they cannot keep it. It encourages them to reinvest into the company since they cannot keep it.
1 in 2 Americans are poor while taxes are the lowest in history for the rich and corporations. Our debt is the highest it has ever been and we have idiots like you spreading B.S. about one point in our current messed up tax code. I feel like I am living in Israel or Germany before WWII with how things are going.
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Ron B, I totally agree with you. Both parties (and the upper class in general) have screwed the American Dream Up. Unfortunately, they too, having all the money and power, AND HENCE are the only ones who can fix it. If it is fixable at all. I am worried, genuinely worried, seeing comments like those from FREEDOMWHATEVER above. I don't think the upper class today has the where with all of those who fought to get their families to the upper class once had. Greed has dealt a very tough blow to our country, but I hope for my kids sake, those in the upper 2% will come to the realization that in order for them to hold their wealth and standing for their future generations, they will need to stop the bleeding and start encouraging politicians to "DO THE RIGHT THING". And I don't mean hand outs, I mean start passing some legislation to repeal things like so called "FREE TRADE" agreements that just encourage businesses to ship jobs over seas. Terrifs on imports from country's like China, where child labor is rampent but robs our citizens of jobs. Break up the Wal Marts of the world, like we once responsibly did with Standard Oil and Ma Bell. The middle class can't do this without the upper class coming to the realization that their very existance is also in the balance here. WE NEED JOBS, CREATING THINGS AND BUILDING THINGS TO BE SOLD HERE AND ABROAD. REPEAL NAFTA AND LIKE LEGISLATION. INACT LEGISLATION TO AT LEAST START THE BALL ROLLING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR AMERICAN WORKERS AND A STRONG MIDDLE CLASS. WHY CAN'T TV'S BE MADE HERE? STOP THE LAWYERS FROM MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A BUSINESS FROM OPERATING HERE. ENOUGH OF THE "FOR THE PEOPLE" SPEACHES BY LAWYERS WHO REALLY ARE ONLY FILING LAWSUITS TO PAD THEIR OWN POCKETS. FACT IS, ONCE A LAWSUIT IS FILED, IT IS FINANCIALLY LESS DAMAGING TO SETTLE FOR A NUISANCE VALUE LIKE $5000 OR SO EVEN IF THE COMPANY DID NOTHING WRONG. BUT THOSE LAWYERS WHO TOUT "FOR THE PEOPLE" ON RADIO AND TV AND BILLBOARDS DON'T TELL YOU THIS. SO BUSINESSES ARE FORCED TO SHIP JOBS OVER SEAS. WE ARE A MESS, BUT WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE. NOT WITH JUST BITTER IN FIGHTING EITHER.
#156.42 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:17 AM EST@FreedomRingsLoud,
I also notice that you fail to mention the millions of American workers that were laid off over the past 10 years in exchange for foreign workers without work visas, let alone green cards.
Also, know that I'm continuing to pay for your over-privileged arse to send lobbyists to Washington DC to get your Repugnican friends to loosen consumer protection laws, block Obama's new consumer protection agency, and get more tax breaks. I was fired from Verizon a few years back so their CEO could send more lobbyists to Washington DC a few days later, courtesy of the American consumer - which also includes YOU, by the way. ;)
It's comical in a way - you defend these greedy twits like you're one of them, yet they continue to ram you up the tailpipe while feeding you BS figures.
#156.43 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:32 AM ESTI also notice that you fail to mention the millions of American workers that were laid off over the past 10 years in exchange for foreign workers without work visas, let alone green cards.
Also, know that I'm continuing to pay for your over-privileged arse to send lobbyists to Washington DC to get your Repugnican friends to loosen consumer protection laws, block Obama's new consumer protection agency, and get more tax breaks. I was fired from Verizon a few years back so their CEO could send more lobbyists to Washington DC a few days later, courtesy of the American consumer - which also includes YOU, by the way. ;)
It's comical in a way - you defend these greedy twits like you're one of them, yet they continue to ram you up the tailpipe while feeding you BS figures.
What happened to the jobs, jobs jobs. promised from the 2010 Republican party? Explain to me how jobs, jobs, jobs suddenly took the back seat to the almighty deficit once deemed " Deficits don't matter" by their almighty Darth Vader,Dick Cheney . How do you do a 180 from the very policies you once supported with fervor?
You are liars. You are hypocrites. You are fools sworn to Fox News because of your inability to think for yourselves. Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, and Coulter appeal to your animal nature to toss your less fortunate brothers aside. Their promotion is solely dictated by an Australian dictator known as Rupert Murdoch. Why would you abandon your own nation to support a Monster that abandoned his own country to overtake ours? You are a pitiful excuse for a pawn of fools.
That ugly Australian monster may believe his evil deeds have placed him in control of the greatest nation on earth. The real American patriots will rise against him as they struggle with his misguided followers. Rupert, you are a condemned man exactly like Hitler,
#156.44 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:49 AM ESTYou are liars. You are hypocrites. You are fools sworn to Fox News because of your inability to think for yourselves. Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, and Coulter appeal to your animal nature to toss your less fortunate brothers aside. Their promotion is solely dictated by an Australian dictator known as Rupert Murdoch. Why would you abandon your own nation to support a Monster that abandoned his own country to overtake ours? You are a pitiful excuse for a pawn of fools.
That ugly Australian monster may believe his evil deeds have placed him in control of the greatest nation on earth. The real American patriots will rise against him as they struggle with his misguided followers. Rupert, you are a condemned man exactly like Hitler,
BTW, I do have my differences with Obama. I don't like where his health care plan is headed, nor did I agree with his stimulus package, and quite frankly, I do not hold well with some of the members of his cabinet - especially Nancy "You can't look at it till you sign it" Pelosi. But by a large, he does a good job with the cards he has been dealt. I would like to see him take on a slightly more hard-lined stance against his opponents in the GOP, but the economic bills he has put in the works are a start.
#156.45 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:56 AM ESTTES -2640989 TruePatriot You blame the Teapublicans because they didn't cave in to the Democrats!! The Teapublicans should fold and give the Democrats everything they ask??!! Why is there no blame for the Democrats? They held the country hostage because they didn't give the Republicans everything they wanted. If it works one way, it works the other. How transparent and onesided can a person be?Reason is that the Democrats, if you havent been reading, have been caving in on their side. They call it bipartisan though. Republicans have not given anything on their side, therefor they are to blame.
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I love me some of them-thar fancy politics
- 6 votes
Yep, it's the only way congress can justify their jobs and ignore their constituency. If they don't plan to do something 2 months from now, they won't have anything else to talk about, oh, say unemployment, our education system, deficit, debt, etc. They know if they come home to town meetings they will get yelled at again; as well they should, they are behaving like toddlers.
Get the special interest money out of congress. No more lobbying. That right there would drop the price of goods and services. End the subsidies as well. Are you sure the corporation you buy stuff from is giving their money to the 'correct' candidate? That's the only way to open congress' eyes; until then we are ignored.
Get the special interest money out of congress. No more lobbying. That right there would drop the price of goods and services. End the subsidies as well. Are you sure the corporation you buy stuff from is giving their money to the 'correct' candidate? That's the only way to open congress' eyes; until then we are ignored.
- 1 vote
Sounds like the 'agreement' was to just kick the can down the road for about 2 months. If so, it will be same-old, same-old in the new year.
- 20 votes
Boehner and Cantor and the other RINOS are trying to avoid us at the polls.
No luck,. we are going to be right there waiting.
Those two especially, have played footsies with the dems one time too many.
No luck,. we are going to be right there waiting.
Those two especially, have played footsies with the dems one time too many.
- 12 votes
ron carson, well hello again, rereg! Still got those bags packed for Costa Rico? Bon Voyage! ;-)
- 7 votes
Those two especially, have played footsies with the dems one time too many.Quotes like these makes it impossible for an independent like me to vote Republican. "Footsies" is your code word for "compromise". Without compromise, NO RELATIONSHIP ever truly works.
- 18 votes
So true... so true. The word compromise has become a dirty word for the right leaving independents who see the need for people to come together no reason to ever vote Republican. When they start talking about coming together with the democrats and addressing some of the major problems facing this country, then maybe I will listen to them.
- 8 votes
Ron,
you and the people like you that voted in politicians that think like you are the ones destroying the country. Government does not work with out compromise, you cannot just send your Rambo team in there and blast everyone away to get your way; it does not work like that.
The only good thing out of this is that no one will ever vote for non-compromising pols again, if they are smart; I can see where that could be a problem.
you and the people like you that voted in politicians that think like you are the ones destroying the country. Government does not work with out compromise, you cannot just send your Rambo team in there and blast everyone away to get your way; it does not work like that.
The only good thing out of this is that no one will ever vote for non-compromising pols again, if they are smart; I can see where that could be a problem.
- 5 votes
It appears that Compromise is a dirty word to Obama and the Democrats.
"The bill just passed by House Republicans tonight is a pointless partisan exercise," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said. "The bill is dead on arrival. It was dead before it got to the Senate. The Senate will not pass it."
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2011/December/House-Republicans-Pass-Payroll-Tax-Cut-Extension/
Yep that is looking for a Compromise.
I suppose this is looking for a Compromise also.
The Obama White House has announced that if a Senate bill on net neutrality backed by the Republicans passes, he will veto it.
http://www.nationalconfidential.com/20111108/obama-ill-veto-gop-anti-net-neutrality-bill/
Some more Compromise by Democrats.
Obama warned that he would veto an extension of the payroll-tax cut, his top legislative priority, if House Republicans link it to a measure that would force the administration to greenlight the pipeline project.
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/197901-obama-would-reject-gop-bid-to-tie-payroll-tax-cut-bill-to-keystone-pipeline-decision
Yep. Those damn Republicans just wont Compromise.
"The bill just passed by House Republicans tonight is a pointless partisan exercise," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said. "The bill is dead on arrival. It was dead before it got to the Senate. The Senate will not pass it."
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2011/December/House-Republicans-Pass-Payroll-Tax-Cut-Extension/
Yep that is looking for a Compromise.
I suppose this is looking for a Compromise also.
The Obama White House has announced that if a Senate bill on net neutrality backed by the Republicans passes, he will veto it.
http://www.nationalconfidential.com/20111108/obama-ill-veto-gop-anti-net-neutrality-bill/
Some more Compromise by Democrats.
Obama warned that he would veto an extension of the payroll-tax cut, his top legislative priority, if House Republicans link it to a measure that would force the administration to greenlight the pipeline project.
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/197901-obama-would-reject-gop-bid-to-tie-payroll-tax-cut-bill-to-keystone-pipeline-decision
Yep. Those damn Republicans just wont Compromise.
- 5 votes
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So they get to do the same bull again in 2 months. What leadership!!
Obama wants to get to Hawaii and Harry wants to get home to his pomegranate trees. The Republican leadership will still have the same problems with your ideas in two months but ces't la vie. Go on vacation and feel happy about it. You stupid bunch of idiots!!
Obama wants to get to Hawaii and Harry wants to get home to his pomegranate trees. The Republican leadership will still have the same problems with your ideas in two months but ces't la vie. Go on vacation and feel happy about it. You stupid bunch of idiots!!
- 12 votes
I hope President Obama appoints all his nominees while congress is NOT in session. Recess appointments!!!!
- 13 votes
Hopefully they will last less than a year when he gets voted out!!
- 7 votes
Carl, yep go ahead I hope he does too, it will make it much easier after we dump him,
We have a grand jury waiting for the megalomaniac as soon as we dump him, he is about to find out that, not only does he not walk on water, there are sharks in the water.
It's called Malfeasance in Office, go ahead Obama break some more laws with your executive orders.
We have a grand jury waiting for the megalomaniac as soon as we dump him, he is about to find out that, not only does he not walk on water, there are sharks in the water.
It's called Malfeasance in Office, go ahead Obama break some more laws with your executive orders.
- 7 votes
Reb,,, you seem to forget that it was a Republican put this legislation forward. This is 100% a republican kick it down the road so they can go home for the holidays. That's the fact.
- 16 votes
ron carson, tic, toc, tic, toc......Bon Voyage, rereg! ;-)
- 4 votes
Riiight REB and ron carson, the GOP/TP are showing themselves yet again as obstructionists on behalf of the 1%. We'll see YOU at the polls.
- 13 votes
These right wing hacks have no sense of reality. This congress is the worst in American history, and it's the tea party that's driving it. Keep listening to Fox "news" and AM radio. I predict a HUGE surprise in Nov 2012..The American people are sick of this BS.
- 13 votes
Yeah, and Boehner wants to get back to his scotch and water
- 2 votes
Your right Lady Sam. He's turning the same color as his scotch. Alcoholic boozehound, thats all, nothing more, boozehound alcoholics, yesiree.
- 1 vote
Come on guys you can't do better than 2 months worth of planning. Americans deserve better than that.
- 13 votes
They cannot think that far in advance, it is a physical impossibility because they have to check with Norquist, the business that fill their pockets, and the Koch monarchy before they do anything. Dems cannot do so either because it takes a majority to pass any legislation, however some of them also suffer the same fate as the Rep side but to different higher powers.
- 4 votes
Most folks have been reduced to living week to week or month to month. It appears that our political leaders can do no better.
- 3 votes
The Democratic and Republican Parties are passe. They no longer serve all the people. This knd of crap is the fuse for violent revolution. They are obvioulsly not students of histroy.
- 18 votes
The police crackdowns on the Occupy protests are looking to get ahead of the curve and prevent that violent revolution from ever happening. But I feel it's coming, and sooner than we think.
- 5 votes
1930's about to repeat?????? World War III coming in less than a century? Remember (for those in their 50's or older) that it was predicted a few decades ago that Korea and the Middle East would have us in WWIII in less than a century after WWII.
#161.2 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:10 PM ESTWhy oh why oh whyoh, why did we ever leave ohio - oh well, arn't we lucky we have such grand lobbying?
#162 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:11 PM ESTHehe, I left NW OH 16 years ago to get away from the nasty winter weather. Now I enjoy the wonderful tropical weather of the Caribbean, even though I no longer have any say in national politics.....oh wait, I do. I've been promoting the Popular Amendment Movements petition drive (www.faircampaignreform.us) for the Election/Campaign Finance Reform and Term Limits constitutional amendments since July 2010. Why haven't any of you gotten involved yet?
#162.1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM ESTThere has to be a trick here some where,guess they really want to go home for Christmas.
- 1 vote
what.... reb? boehner gonna stay in d.c. and work? the rest of his ilk gonna stay with him? they could work now til NEXT christmas 24/7 and not unearth us from the pile of crap your boy bush left. this is a bi-partisan pile of manure we're under and no matter how much you wish it was all because of the last three years, you're about 9 years off from where the mess started.
- 19 votes
Uh huh, we 're not going to allow Obama to institute more freebie programs, live with it.
- 4 votes
Let's see, when was the last Congress to actually pass a budget AND all necessary appropriations bills. I believe it has been at two, if not more. They just keep passing "Continuing Resolutions" instead of passing the required appropriations bills. The budget was supposed to have been passed by last MAY (and remember that the budget is exactly that....a budget or guideline for the expenditures that Congress then votes for or against.) All appropriations bills are supposed to be passed before the end of the fiscal year (September 30) for the upcoming fiscal year (beginning October 1.) We are 2.5 months into the 2012 fiscal year already. What appropriations bills have passed and been signed into law so far? Just more continuing resolutions.
#164.2 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:19 PM ESTYes Fred it STARTED there it's ongoing in the here and now, time to start owning y'alls shortcomings don't ya think?
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I wish they would all leave Washington and can't find their way back. Two empty chambers would get more accomplished.
- 13 votes
A 3rd Party..... coming to your state and America soon!
Weasel's on both sides cutting up $$$ while the rest of America sits "with baited breath".
Here is a taste of Friday on CSPAN... Just switch some word's with budget and NOT going on vacation, and you get this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
PLEASE Tell me that this isn't the case. Squinting as to the response
#167.1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:33 PM ESTWeasel's on both sides cutting up $$$ while the rest of America sits "with baited breath".
Here is a taste of Friday on CSPAN... Just switch some word's with budget and NOT going on vacation, and you get this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
PLEASE Tell me that this isn't the case. Squinting as to the response
doem309; That picture you have up along side of your post, reminds me of someone, its like I know the guy. For some crazy reason it reminds me of Dubya , lol. I hate to put the guy from MAD down like that, because I had a lot of fun reading that magazine for years growning up. Still funny, even now, when he's representing Dubya. I would of never thought that guy would of gave me so many laughs back then. Thanks
- 1 vote
ANYTHING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF PAUL RYAN IS A CALCULATED LIE. There is nothing in this "11 hour proposal" that the mouthpiece of the 1% ers that he couldn't have said 1 YEAR AGO! This "bi-partisan" plan to kill social security is nothing more than the original talking points meant to fool more people, they just convinced a democrat with some information obtained from Rupert Murdoch and his pals at Faux News. Nothing the republicraps do or say these days are in any way constructive for this country or it's citizens. Idiots will cut their own throats to make sure someone else does not get a dime of "their" government benefits. HOW STUPID!!!!!!!!!
- 9 votes
What we really need is a budget for 2012. The congress needs to support the promise of the President and make sure that the 2012 federal deficit does not exceed 229.27 billion dollars. To do that they must cut spending by more then 1 trillion dollars in just one year starting now. With our current debt over 15 trillion dollars, I estimate that if will cost the tax payers more than 2.06 trillion dollars to repay money borrowed in 170 years. The federal government needs to start running a surplus which will be applied to lowering the national debt. We need more than deficit reduction. We need debt reduction.
- 1 vote
will darlin I have seen you write this more than once I think I'm the only one listening ;)
- 1 vote
Of course they agreed, they want to rake in their big fat checks and non-income perks. I still say the only thing worse than a politician is a child molester.
- 2 votes
Geez Louise!!! More can kicking! The lawmakers of this nation are disgraceful. Time to can Congress and the Senate and start fresh.
- 2 votes
Looks like the romans got it right years ago in how they created unity within the ranks. Every tenth man was told to leave, no exceptions. Doing this in both the WH and congress just might create bipartisanship again.
#175 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:31 PM ESTMakes you wonder who are the bigger idiots. Congress or the people who continue to re-elect them?
- 7 votes
there's a lot of dummies in this country..
sometimes dummies unwittingly elect dummies to represent them..
sometimes dummies unwittingly elect dummies to represent them..
- 3 votes
Dummies!!!!
#176.2 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:07 AM ESTAnd the Republican said 'deal made to kick the can down the road.'
- 4 votes
No, the republicans said, nope we are not going to allow Obama to fund more freebie programs.
- 2 votes
Wow, ron carson is a super hack. Do you even have a clue what was in this bill. The only party putting BS in it was the GOP, trying to tack a pipline onto a budget bill. Those guys are pathetic and it seems you are their biggest cheerleader.
- 7 votes
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well lets hope this will be the last term for all of them.
- 4 votes
fat chance of that happening - the republicans only have the same old fools with the same old ideas to run and they all are making asses out of themselves on a daily basis. as for congress, you can bet your butt the idiot voters in our country will keep them in their cushy do nothing jobs until they all drop dead. we truly are a country of idiots who love to vote against our better interests just because the majority votes straight party lines instead of using that pimple on their shoulders
- 1 vote
Dan-4536159---house can only stay for two terms; so they can not stay till they drop dead; only dems can do that in congress; good example harry reid and nancy polosi; who r they dems or reps; but i sure know they been there for a very long time; what about barney frank dem or reps trick question ha;;; the banking system; bubble; i can go on; on both sides and not just reps dems also have a lot to blame; what about kerry from ma;; edwards; how about naming a few ur self; that held the bubble; i like to name a few in the federal reserve if u may; please;
#178.2 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:35 PM ESTAll they did was ensure they get a paycheck before the Christmas shut down.....
- 2 votes
Just a short term finger in the dam! That way the Republicans can paint themselves as the saviours of the country over the holidays...oh and go HOME for the holidays early!!
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